Voyager Identity #1
Last Edited Time
Mar 6, 2022
Created time
Mar 4, 2022
Participants
Created By
Type
Created
Mar 4, 2022
Zoom Recording
Property
Property 1
Attendees
Observers
- Cent (Metagov), Callsign: 🕳️
- Stepan Gershuni (Deep Skills)
- Tina He (Station), Callsign: 🧢
- Conner Swenberg (Station), Callsign: 🤟
- Paprika (Station), Callsign: 🌐
- Junhe Li (_____)
Notes / Minutes
Emoji Participation
Josh
...think about what your call sign is...
Intros
David Sneider
...LitProtocol Team...
...blockchain user decrypt data based on conditions such as NFT holding...
...interested in self-sovereignty on the web...
Yury Lifshits
...SuperDAO...
...Shopify of DAO...
...universal member app with membership information...
...interested in people being able to port their information from across chains for profiles...
...joined with Mikhail Sitnikov...
Mikhail Sitnikov
...SuperDAO...
...software developer...
...launched two startups...
Jordan
...leadership team at DAO Masters...
...best practice documents for DAOs and research teams...
...co-founder of Closer...
...working on creating communication layer away from discord...
...interested in pseudo-identity...
...how to prove work without automatically having to identify what you have done...
...working with Sismo and disco on this...
Andros Wong
...co-founder of Wonderverse...
...workflow and project management...
...contributor and task payment...
...thinking about how work can be standardized on-chain...
...identity is key for DAO interoperability...
Coner (cswenberg)
...identity management...
...how organizations draw boundaries of inside and outside...
...within reputation, most centered around social reputation...
...distinction between sourcecred and coordinape...
...action vs social based...
Josh
...will invite Randy to a future call...
...worked with Stack Overflow on reputation systems...
Ryan Gil
...DeveloperDAO...
...5,000+ developers...
...goal is on-boarding to web3...
...understanding what developers are building on and what tools DeveloperDAO can build as a public good...
...intersted in how developers and present across multiple DAOs and projects
Stepan Gershuni
...co-founder Deep Skills...
...making an accreditation system for reputation...
...way of connecting people to mentors...
Jimmy Ragosa
...co-founder Sismo...
...zk badges...
...pseudonymous identity...
Balazs Nemethi
...kycDAO...
Agenda
- What does identity look like within DAOs?
- Who’s working on what in the DAO?
- Sub-boundaries within.
- Reputation
- how work can be
Identity specifically within DAOs.
Josh
...what are the things we should be doing?...
Yury
...similar to LinkedIn and Coursera functionality...
...ability to import achievements from DAO profiles...
...not app to app, chain to app...
Conner
...pulling info from wallets...
...what is the stack for this?...
...DIDs vc? vs. web2 API...
David
...what does the SDK look like when a DAO or 3rd party wants to request data that might be private from an individual...
... thinking about the interaction and consent flows...
...there is a standard to create around there...
Aaron
...from Govern...
...base level conversation is: what is being shown?...
...the question of importing is too far down the and more implementation...
...what are the composable elements?...
...question is how do we make a data standard where we can build on each other’s work...
Yury
...censorship and OpenSeas...
...OpenSeas is able to decide what is a good or bad NFT...
...imagine the same system with achievements...
...how has the power to control achievements display...
Stepan
...there are different ways of building identities...
...NFTs, DID, APIs, etc. ...
...standards: being able to trace trust of data will be important...
...need of schema registry / manager...
...trust or issuer registry...
...interoperable schema and registries and accredidation aggregators...
Josh
...JSON-LD for extensibility...
...Web-based ontology and schema system handled well with JSON-LD...
...a DAO may be somewhat analogous to a Solid Pod...
Balazs
...seeking clarification about what problem this working group is solving...
...proposing to work on a charter first to clarify purpose...
...next decide what tech stack to use...
Josh
...this goal of this group is to define conceptual problems to define the charter/mandate...
...this same process happened with the other working group for the EIP standard proposal...
...brainstorming...
Andros
...would be important to define how a DAO is identified...
Josh
...DAO identity is complicated because they have multiple addresses and exist across multiple chains...
...DAO identity will be a common end point...
...are we recreating DIF?...
Balazs
...on DIF: Decentralized Identity Foundation...
...a lot of efforts have been discussed, but not for DAOs specifically...
...the topic of moving reputation is well discussed in DIF...
...this conversation could be hosted in the context of DIF...
...DIF could help as various points on specific topics...
...patent trolls: if you want big companies to use these ideas or tools, patent control is important and DIF offers this legal protection...
...if there is no legal signature, then anyone can still sign a patent on something...
...this has happened in w3c...
...one a patent gets in it can be taken out...
Josh
...look into the patent troll issue...
...what is an immediate problem we can solve that gets in the way of supporting identity in web3?...
Ryan Gill
...when recording contributions of a singular member across projects, we are interested in how we should be doing that...
Josh
...what groups are looking at specifically on-chain or a mix of the two?...
...this standard should accommodate both on and off chain data...
Stepan
...reputation is not always a data point...
...reputation is an aggregation of many data points...
...the points are computed into a subjective reputation...
...one way of solving this issue could be to have a marketplace for these data points...
...the usecase would be one way of filtering the available data points based on needs...
Josh
...will continue to have weekly meetings...
...focus will be on background research on DID that people have already been exploring...
...will have a researcher synthesize the research being shared...
...Metagov role...
Balazs
...send a 2 paragraph description of what they are working on and interested in working on to facilitate collaboration and groups...
Zoom chat
12:01:59 From Joshua Tan to Everyone:
https://daostar.notion.site/Voyager-1-14b24cbb619f4058b0c7f3ff8ed926a1
12:14:43 From Nelson Jordan to Everyone:
Quick shill if you're interested in Coordinape: https://medium.com/@nelsontjordan/we-used-coordinape-to-pay-our-dao-heres-what-we-found-a7b7f731c5a4
12:16:31 From abbeytitcomb to Everyone:
hi everyone! 👋
12:16:40 From nassarhayat to Everyone:
oh wait
12:16:42 From cswenberg to Everyone:
Hey abbey 🙂
12:16:44 From nassarhayat to Everyone:
you’re here
12:16:53 From Tina He to Everyone:
abbey!!!
12:18:10 From Joshua Tan to Everyone:
For new folks, notes are being taken here: https://daostar.notion.site/Voyager-1-14b24cbb619f4058b0c7f3ff8ed926a1
12:18:59 From David Sneider to Everyone:
glad to see deep skills protocol here!!
12:19:22 From Paprika to Everyone:
Hey abbey!!
12:19:35 From abbeytitcomb to Everyone:
yes, had to join late! hiiinas
12:22:05 From nassarhayat to Everyone:
🔫
12:22:08 From Nelson Jordan to Everyone:
A cup of tea, please
12:22:12 From Yury Lifshits | Superdao to Everyone:
🦸
12:22:24 From Rocco, Rocco | Spruce to Everyone:
🌲
12:22:25 From Rocco, Rocco | Spruce to Everyone:
:D
12:22:26 From Yury Lifshits | Superdao to Everyone:
Gender neutral superhero emoji
12:22:30 From David Sneider to Everyone:
🔥
12:22:35 From abbeytitcomb to Everyone:
🌱
12:22:45 From nassarhayat to Everyone:
💧
12:22:56 From Andros Wong to Everyone:
✨
12:22:56 From Paprika to Everyone:
🌐
12:22:57 From Balazs Nemethi (kycDAO) to Everyone:
😈
12:22:58 From Aaron (he/him) - Govrn to Everyone:
🌞
12:23:07 From conner (Station) to Everyone:
🤟
12:23:13 From Ryan Gill to Everyone:
🕺
12:23:35 From Nelson Jordan to Everyone:
☕
12:23:40 From Cent to Everyone:
🕳️
12:24:03 From Jimmy Ragosa to Everyone:
🏅
12:25:07 From Tina He to Everyone:
🧢
12:26:22 From Rocco, Rocco | Spruce to Everyone:
Hi! Rocco from Spruce here :D
12:26:26 From Rocco, Rocco | Spruce to Everyone:
My audio is a bit messed up
12:26:28 From Rocco, Rocco | Spruce to Everyone:
apologies
12:26:53 From Rolf Hoefer to Everyone:
💜
12:26:58 From Rocco, Rocco | Spruce to Everyone:
This is being worked on re: CACAO / authorizations
12:27:07 From Rocco, Rocco | Spruce to Everyone:
SIWE + CACAO
12:27:12 From Yury Lifshits | Superdao to Everyone:
Or iOS permissions model
12:27:12 From Rocco, Rocco | Spruce to Everyone:
Authentication + Authorizations.
12:27:21 From Rocco, Rocco | Spruce to Everyone:
https://github.com/ChainAgnostic/CAIPs/pull/74
12:28:21 From Joshua Tan to Everyone:
Sorry again I keep forgetting the press the button.
12:28:34 From Rolf Hoefer to Everyone:
Love it how consistent you are
12:28:44 From Rolf Hoefer to Everyone:
You need an hourglass as emoticon!
12:28:46 From Rolf Hoefer to Everyone:
😆
12:28:52 From Joshua Tan to Everyone:
😅
12:32:40 From Aaron (he/him) - Govrn to Everyone:
v much agree
12:33:36 From Joshua Tan to Everyone:
https://daostar.notion.site/Schema-Extension-Spec-aa5b96ec1b47432b9e09f606d34e0fc3
12:36:22 From Rocco, Rocco | Spruce to Everyone:
DAO Curated Registry.
12:36:24 From Rocco, Rocco | Spruce to Everyone:
DCR
12:36:26 From Stepan Gershuni to Everyone:
+1
12:37:16 From Stepan Gershuni to Everyone:
Reinvent DIF 😄
12:37:43 From Rocco, Rocco | Spruce to Everyone:
Maybe similar to Verite: here are the the standard schemas
12:37:51 From Andros Wong to Everyone:
^^
12:38:24 From abbeytitcomb to Everyone:
Have to run now, but also interested in the mandate ^^^ Will look out for what y’all come up with
12:38:48 From Jimmy Ragosa to Everyone:
Have to drop off, sorry => sick kid
12:39:30 From Balazs Nemethi (kycDAO) to Everyone:
:) yeah - just we started talking about technology implementations, not conceptual problems
12:41:36 From Aaron (he/him) - Govrn to Everyone:
Can you clarify what you mean by dao identity?
12:44:02 From David Sneider to Everyone:
seems like the 'endpoint' model also applies to people....
12:44:19 From Stepan Gershuni to Everyone:
Well known did kind of thing?
12:49:14 From Rocco, Rocco | Spruce to Everyone:
+1 +1 +1 +1
12:49:23 From Rocco, Rocco | Spruce to Everyone:
Fuck patent trolls
12:50:00 From Nelson Jordan to Everyone:
Thanks for the info. Sounds interesting, Balazs
12:50:27 From Rocco, Rocco | Spruce to Everyone:
People can secretly do it / build it / patent it
12:53:39 From Nelson Jordan to Everyone:
Yep, made sense!
12:56:06 From conner (Station) to Everyone:
Both as well
12:56:12 From Andros Wong to Everyone:
Both as well!
12:57:28 From Balazs Nemethi (kycDAO) to Everyone:
“magic internet storage space”
12:58:01 From Junhe Li to Everyone:
+1
12:59:35 From Junhe Li to Everyone:
Similar to us credit bureau haha, that’s a great direction tbh
12:59:55 From Junhe Li to Everyone:
The hard thing is still who publish facts
13:01:01 From Nelson Jordan to Everyone:
Got to dash, but thanks again and speak to you next week. Hope you all have a great weekend!
13:02:13 From Balazs Nemethi (kycDAO) to Everyone:
https://supportukrainenow.org/
13:02:14 From Balazs Nemethi (kycDAO) to Everyone:
^^
13:02:18 From Balazs Nemethi (kycDAO) to Everyone:
just if you want to help