The tenth meeting
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Sep 2, 2022
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Sep 2, 2022
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Sep 2, 2022
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Attendees:
- Cent Hosten
- James Young
- David Ehrlichman
- Anja Von Rosenstiel
- Josiah Tullis
- Alex Poon (CharmVerse)
- Alex (SuperDAO)
- Alison McCauley (Unfinished)
- Amy Jung
- Andy Ku (IQT)
- Ann Brody
- Anna Weichselbraun, UVienna
- Ashok Ayyar
- Bianca Kremer (Wharton BDAP)
- Ivan Fartunov
- James Young (Collab.land)
- Jeff Yost, CBI Dir. UMN Blockchain
- Nataliya Ilyushina
- Nelson (Avenue, DAO Masters)
- Tara Merk
- Theo Beutel
- Vasanth (fwb, Chainforest)
- Daniel Ospina
- Daniel Kronovet
Agenda
0:00 -- Arrival & Welcome
0:03 -- Poll: What are effective ways that DAOs can prioritize security and manage vulnerabilities?
Working Group Updates
Tara - Stanford Blockchain Conference (SBC)
- An update of the study are as and events as part of the (SBC)
- The foundations state that the experts are the practitioners, not the funders. They want to give money to researchers. there is an opportunity to share the research agenda. Use the DAO Research Hub to feed into the broader blockchain ecosystem.
- Open call to input from audience
- Josh
- Was talking about constitution dao and how is suffered a disadvantage because their bid was transparent.
- Talked about how to solve that problem.
- How to allow the minimal amount of privacy that doesn’t look like tornado cash
- Talked about private voting on sensitive topics. Developing a DAO Privacy Summit
- Anja
- Participated in the legal table
- Concerning language: defining dao in legaless. Also saw lack of communication between legal community and dao community. Tried to reach out and create a forum for interchange between lawyers and other agent in the community.
- Discussed how to organize responsibilities. This came up in how a DAO is dissolved or how to end responsibility.
Poll: What research is required for better standards to emerge in the DAO space?
- Call outs:
- Qualitative social science and interactions between the social scientific and technical communities.
- Jeff Yost:
- Interested in how communication occures between technical, ethics, and social communities.
- Has been a strong critic in work about what transpired in web2 and sees DAOs as needing more awareness for how standards are set and the social side of research.
- Types of DAOs
- Nelson
- The descriptor of DAO is becoming less and less useful
- We are missing each other a lot in conversations
- There are many different intents behind these organizations
- Take for instance: protocol, media, and social DAOs and the function of decentralization
- Josh:
- Agree with this. People using this word in a way that is irksome.
- Trying to memify digitally constituted organizations.
- Part of a much broader class of organizations, of which DAOs are one part.
- Tara:
- Another proposal brought up is: what is unique about DAOs, or where do they win?
- This is interesting in a standards setting
- We are dealing with organizations that uniquly do x, y, z.
- These organizations require new technical thinking and standards.
- Daniel
- The approach to this point has been to take a coorporataion and shareholder approach. But, people don’t have the same behaviors as investors. We should take a multi-stakeholder approach to this question.
- Tara
- Daniel is describing a bottom up pattern in how governance works.
- If we do this mapping exercise we bucket and then determine different patterns for different types of DAOs
- This allows us to understand different forms of governance across the ecosystem
- Daniel:
- Yes to the different approaches.
- This can touch on the classification of DAOs. If a community is coming together to learn and others are coming together to build a tool because they have a vision for how to change the world then you have two very different types of DAOs with different motivations.
- Mapping these allows us to understand the multiple types of stakeholders in terms of their needs, profiles, and relations to governance.
- Nataliya
- To Daniel’s point of mapping stakholders. We are doing member interviews and surveys, similar to how Bankless does.
- This looks at things like who and how people are getting paid, and this also points to who the stakeholders are.
- Josh
- Think that surveys are great, but —
- It is useful to have an accurate assesment of the economic social participants and their roles and atachement to roles.
- At Metagov we’ve been working with validators to create a politcal party.
- Have learned different sub groups that have differnet interests.
- Some validators never participate in votes as a rule.
- Some of deferring interests. This is useful from a design and managment perspective.
- Nataliya
- The problem with surveys is that in many cases they know nothing about what a DAO is, and they need to be taught.
- David Ehrlichman - Specific calls for research and team building
- Josiah
- A question we’ve had at utopia is around knowledge transfer. Better governance around term limits, token vesting and contributors.
- Daniel:
- In addition to the Multi-Stakeholder governance project, we have research projects starting on Rewards & Compensation and on SubDAO Decision Making, if you're intereste din collaborating, let me know!
- Josh
- Is there intereste in forming a WG around standardizing decentralization
- Anja
- Yes, this would be helpful from a legal perspective and international law
- You have ITSA (international standardization of contracts)
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