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Grants Committee Weekly Jul 26, 2022

Attendance
kouros, icedcool, rene, links, lion, Chuck, jengajojo, Ap0ll0, jameswmontgomery
Date
Jul 26, 2022
Last Edited Time
Oct 19, 2022
Last edited by
Note-taker
links
Recording
Multi-select
 
Action Items

Board

Grants Committee S4 Tasks
No Select
0
Next Up
5
This Week
4
To Review
1
Complete
27
 
Team Perspective
  • Last meet for Icedcool, Kouros, and Chuck 🖖🏽
    • good feels all around
  • A wild Ap0ll0, jengajojo, and Paul appeared 💥
  • Onboarding for new members: read all documentation here:
    💼
    Grants Committee Handbook
    • When you’re reading, if you find something off, please comment so we can fix it!
  • ? ACTION: set up Lettucemeet for new GC weekly time
    • ACTION: Rene to check with Paul to see if this time is ok to meet
  • DECISION: keep this weekly time for GC meet
  • ACTION: links to archive S4 Kanban, create S5 Kanban
    • also archive anything else S4 related on Notion
Accounting
  • Bank for the remaining of the season: 6,382,609.317
  • Average BANK per week left : 3,191,304.6585
  • Grants Committee Funding tracking
Discussion
Discussion: Seasonal Funding for S5
 
Q: Are all projects reviewed?
  • yes!
 
Q: Should we enforce 1000 BANK/hr?
  • I want to publish a poll to all L1+ to gain some feedback here.
 
Projects can remunerate as they like, BUT should Grants Committee be funding this?
  • this could have a cascade effect, would like to have a poll around this perhaps
    • we should be consistent - if one project funds 1.5K BANK/hr, then ALL should
  • 2 competing factors:
    • want to have accountability, want to ensure that we are spending effectively
    • we aren’t paying enough
  • devs, finance, legal usually make more
    • this is a reality - they make more money, so they should make more BANK
  • total seasonal distribution of BANK - 33M BANK (based on vesting for community treasury)
    • if projects start asking for more BANK/hr and it increases by 100-200%, then we may get more BANK than the DAO has
    • we’re already close to the ceiling, so how can we make this happen?
  • when we experience price appreciation, will hourly BANK expectation go down?
    • unconvinced that this will happen, as price appreciates people will still want that 1000 BANK/hr
    • hard to make this happen w/ price volatility
  • some context:
    • wild variations in BANK/hr ask in early days of Grants Committee (300-7k/hr), so to solve this disparity, they set a standard rate
    • there is no supply/demand metric at the DAO yet - we have no way of comparing different kinds of work
  • the Grants Committee has the ability to distribute BANK, so the more we distribute, the more BANK can be sold (thus reducing the price)
    • when BANK price was going up, there was some effort to reduce the BANK/hr, but this is a larger tokenomic discussion
  • the price of BANK right now isn’t based on fundamentals , it’s based on speculation
    • very difficult to tether to some real world value (i.e. USD)
    • as a result, would want to enforce 1K BANK/hr until we either get some fundamentals in our price OR we have trouble getting contributors
  • for 1K BANK at current BANK price, we are incentivizing people with passion for the DAO but not necessarily with skills
    • but passion transcends skills - we have devs, legal, finance working for 1K BANK/hr now
  • what about projects that “get around” the issue by asking more BANK??
    • Grants Committee needs to check these projects
    • if we see a 40 hr/wk project, i ask myself whether or not our grants is to pay people to work full time OR to kickstart projects so that people themselves can find a way to work full time
    • if we are here to help contributors contribute, then the answer is different than if we are maximizing ROI
  • has there been some discussion about milestone based BANK instead of per hour rates?
    • Bankless Academy had milestone-based unlocks in S4, and it was very difficult to keep track of this from Grants Committee perspective
    • Newsletter team does bounty-based output and it works very well (project does it’s own tracking of milestones)
  • should we ask IMN to increase their BANK/hr ask?
    • if not, then we are actually enforcing upto 1K BANK/hr, important distinction
 
Q: Are we rubber-stamping guilds?
  • seems like we dont have time (2 days) to figure out another model
  • we have a new system coming in the next season, so we can figure this out then
  • maybe we should have further scrutiny on the proposals
    • then the GC is the responsible party to ensure that guilds/projects are producing
 
Discussion: Forum quorum adjustment
TL;DR: Recommend reducing forum quorum requirements by -37.5% based on this analysis
Discussion: Second tranche funding for S4
 
  • but the IMN amount is wrong?
 
  • bDAO Global ETH Events needs second tranche funding
  • DAO Sentiment tracker needs 50K BANK more
 
 
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Grants Committee Weekly Jul 26, 2022

Attendance
kouros, icedcool, rene, links, lion, Chuck, jengajojo, Ap0ll0, jameswmontgomery
Date
Jul 26, 2022
Last Edited Time
Oct 19, 2022
Last edited by
Note-taker
links
Recording
Multi-select
 
Action Items

Board

Grants Committee S4 Tasks
No Select
0
Next Up
5
This Week
4
To Review
1
Complete
27
 
Team Perspective
  • Last meet for Icedcool, Kouros, and Chuck 🖖🏽
    • good feels all around
  • A wild Ap0ll0, jengajojo, and Paul appeared 💥
  • Onboarding for new members: read all documentation here:
    💼
    Grants Committee Handbook
    • When you’re reading, if you find something off, please comment so we can fix it!
  • ? ACTION: set up Lettucemeet for new GC weekly time
    • ACTION: Rene to check with Paul to see if this time is ok to meet
  • DECISION: keep this weekly time for GC meet
  • ACTION: links to archive S4 Kanban, create S5 Kanban
    • also archive anything else S4 related on Notion
Accounting
  • Bank for the remaining of the season: 6,382,609.317
  • Average BANK per week left : 3,191,304.6585
  • Grants Committee Funding tracking
Discussion
Discussion: Seasonal Funding for S5
 
Q: Are all projects reviewed?
  • yes!
 
Q: Should we enforce 1000 BANK/hr?
  • I want to publish a poll to all L1+ to gain some feedback here.
 
Projects can remunerate as they like, BUT should Grants Committee be funding this?
  • this could have a cascade effect, would like to have a poll around this perhaps
    • we should be consistent - if one project funds 1.5K BANK/hr, then ALL should
  • 2 competing factors:
    • want to have accountability, want to ensure that we are spending effectively
    • we aren’t paying enough
  • devs, finance, legal usually make more
    • this is a reality - they make more money, so they should make more BANK
  • total seasonal distribution of BANK - 33M BANK (based on vesting for community treasury)
    • if projects start asking for more BANK/hr and it increases by 100-200%, then we may get more BANK than the DAO has
    • we’re already close to the ceiling, so how can we make this happen?
  • when we experience price appreciation, will hourly BANK expectation go down?
    • unconvinced that this will happen, as price appreciates people will still want that 1000 BANK/hr
    • hard to make this happen w/ price volatility
  • some context:
    • wild variations in BANK/hr ask in early days of Grants Committee (300-7k/hr), so to solve this disparity, they set a standard rate
    • there is no supply/demand metric at the DAO yet - we have no way of comparing different kinds of work
  • the Grants Committee has the ability to distribute BANK, so the more we distribute, the more BANK can be sold (thus reducing the price)
    • when BANK price was going up, there was some effort to reduce the BANK/hr, but this is a larger tokenomic discussion
  • the price of BANK right now isn’t based on fundamentals , it’s based on speculation
    • very difficult to tether to some real world value (i.e. USD)
    • as a result, would want to enforce 1K BANK/hr until we either get some fundamentals in our price OR we have trouble getting contributors
  • for 1K BANK at current BANK price, we are incentivizing people with passion for the DAO but not necessarily with skills
    • but passion transcends skills - we have devs, legal, finance working for 1K BANK/hr now
  • what about projects that “get around” the issue by asking more BANK??
    • Grants Committee needs to check these projects
    • if we see a 40 hr/wk project, i ask myself whether or not our grants is to pay people to work full time OR to kickstart projects so that people themselves can find a way to work full time
    • if we are here to help contributors contribute, then the answer is different than if we are maximizing ROI
  • has there been some discussion about milestone based BANK instead of per hour rates?
    • Bankless Academy had milestone-based unlocks in S4, and it was very difficult to keep track of this from Grants Committee perspective
    • Newsletter team does bounty-based output and it works very well (project does it’s own tracking of milestones)
  • should we ask IMN to increase their BANK/hr ask?
    • if not, then we are actually enforcing upto 1K BANK/hr, important distinction
 
Q: Are we rubber-stamping guilds?
  • seems like we dont have time (2 days) to figure out another model
  • we have a new system coming in the next season, so we can figure this out then
  • maybe we should have further scrutiny on the proposals
    • then the GC is the responsible party to ensure that guilds/projects are producing
 
Discussion: Forum quorum adjustment
TL;DR: Recommend reducing forum quorum requirements by -37.5% based on this analysis
Discussion: Second tranche funding for S4
 
  • but the IMN amount is wrong?
 
  • bDAO Global ETH Events needs second tranche funding
  • DAO Sentiment tracker needs 50K BANK more