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Sense Making / Deliberation

 
Success:
We can study decision making in a profitable way
 
Selling some projects
  • Vaughn could pitch this project
  • Break both Voter Apathy and SubDAO decisions into smaller chunks
    • Each about 20k worth
    • Define the question and some methods
    • think of who would be interested
  • Aragon
    • Does AA want some strategic research partnership?
  • DAOHous
  • Gitcoin Grants
  • Tally? Snapshot?
Spaces
collective intelligence (large crowds)
team decision making (small groups)
 
DAO Meta Governance
Sense Making & Strategy
  • understanding the problem
  • Breaking down the options, evidence
  • agreeing on goals, values and criteria
  • Scenario planning (closer to naturalistic decision making in individual experts)
tactical decisions
 
Communication in Decision
  • I went through his online course, and the steps were:
    • Define the decision clearly at the start
    • Declare the participants & roles (DACI - who is contributing, who is informed)
    • Gather Weigh-ins (independent, not in a group, 2 cycles)
    • Make the decision
    • Announce the decision clearly and getting buy-in
    • Disagree, Commit and Keep track of decision outcomes
  • I think the new tool had more Clearbox in it than the old CloverPop
    • More decision analysis, collecting points of data, summing up the hierarchy
How about we focus on liquid democracy in DAOs? and do a research project to become tool?
 
 
Voter Apathy and Delegation
Chain of delegation, not just one-off.
Whole token holders who delegate to stewards, making decisions and executing. Both strategic, some tactical.
Bottom tier, hold some tokens, will only engage every 6 months. Won’t change unless something big happens. ENS - delegates that don’t show up, and engaged ones are frustrated. Getting a delegation changed is a huge problem and pain
Middle tier - people who accumulate some voting power, and are then delegating to someone else. Not in discord on every decision, but might check every month or two months. You know who is savvy and paying attention.
 
  • How is delegation working or not in your DAO?
  • Voter apathy
  • Delegation across the board, or by topic
 
MetaGOV got at $60k from GitCoin Grants
 
Decision needs of SubDAO leaders
One pain that subDAO leaders expressed was that it was hard to decentralize decisions, because they were control freaks and didn’t trust most of the people in their subDAO. Or they limited membership to their subDAO because they needed people they could trust to make a good decision.
  • What is the root of this pain?
  • What does “a good decision fast” feel like?
  • What happens when decisions go wrong?
  • Where do these decisions go wrong?
  • What are examples of decisions
    • that they did trust to their group
    • that they weren’t willing to trust
 
8k per project, for individual DAOs or SubDAOs
  • about the messy decisions
  • micro NFT sale for the research access
  • Mirror crowd fund, but a minimum
 
 
 
Liquid Democracy
Liquid democracy and sub-DAOs? what's the intersection of the two? Should the community have power over the sub-DAO, should sub-DAOs use leads? should sub-DAO leads be elected?
I'm getting annoyed at all the committees popping up and don't understand why no one is working on liquid dem which is like more advanced delegation
  • Problem Statement: As a DAO member (voter), I want good oversight over the subDAOs that we are funding, but I can’t raise concerns about the effectiveness (or trustworthiness) of a given subDAO because I don’t have the context or expert knowledge, which makes me feel rugged.
 
Multistakeholder Governance in DAOs
What contexts have this problem?
 
Corporate Governance to better serve customers and employees
 
  • autocratic, not good
  • Ask DAO Star One for a grant
    • Metagov is very academic. We couldn’t pull that rigor off, and it’s not that helpful
 
Basic decision tools
Light-weight tools to help sub-DAO leaders involve their teams or members in decisions in a safe way
 
Separating Problem from Solution
Can wider communities do a better job of prioritizing problems than voting on solutions? How do the DAO’s work where all token holders (or member wallets) vote on problems, then delegate teams to solve the important ones
Cardano tool for giving grants, instead of committee:
  • Cardano Grant Project, problem sensing, proposals,
  • Cardano network fees
RFP tool in DAOs
     
    Test existing community input tools
    • pol.is, loomio, kialo
     
    Test existing problem breakdown tools
    • that thing out of MIT we heard about at EthDenver - PSI
    • that other thing out of MIT (older, prof)
     
    Taxonomy of decisions
    Collect a big sample of decisions. Categorize them in various ways
    • Visible
      • Look at DAO forums and vote records
    • Invisible
      • Survey DAO leaders, contributors
    👁️‍🗨️

    Sense Making / Deliberation

     
    Success:
    We can study decision making in a profitable way
     
    Selling some projects
    • Vaughn could pitch this project
    • Break both Voter Apathy and SubDAO decisions into smaller chunks
      • Each about 20k worth
      • Define the question and some methods
      • think of who would be interested
    • Aragon
      • Does AA want some strategic research partnership?
    • DAOHous
    • Gitcoin Grants
    • Tally? Snapshot?
    Spaces
    collective intelligence (large crowds)
    team decision making (small groups)
     
    DAO Meta Governance
    Sense Making & Strategy
    • understanding the problem
    • Breaking down the options, evidence
    • agreeing on goals, values and criteria
    • Scenario planning (closer to naturalistic decision making in individual experts)
    tactical decisions
     
    Communication in Decision
    • I went through his online course, and the steps were:
      • Define the decision clearly at the start
      • Declare the participants & roles (DACI - who is contributing, who is informed)
      • Gather Weigh-ins (independent, not in a group, 2 cycles)
      • Make the decision
      • Announce the decision clearly and getting buy-in
      • Disagree, Commit and Keep track of decision outcomes
    • I think the new tool had more Clearbox in it than the old CloverPop
      • More decision analysis, collecting points of data, summing up the hierarchy
    How about we focus on liquid democracy in DAOs? and do a research project to become tool?
     
     
    Voter Apathy and Delegation
    Chain of delegation, not just one-off.
    Whole token holders who delegate to stewards, making decisions and executing. Both strategic, some tactical.
    Bottom tier, hold some tokens, will only engage every 6 months. Won’t change unless something big happens. ENS - delegates that don’t show up, and engaged ones are frustrated. Getting a delegation changed is a huge problem and pain
    Middle tier - people who accumulate some voting power, and are then delegating to someone else. Not in discord on every decision, but might check every month or two months. You know who is savvy and paying attention.
     
    • How is delegation working or not in your DAO?
    • Voter apathy
    • Delegation across the board, or by topic
     
    MetaGOV got at $60k from GitCoin Grants
     
    Decision needs of SubDAO leaders
    One pain that subDAO leaders expressed was that it was hard to decentralize decisions, because they were control freaks and didn’t trust most of the people in their subDAO. Or they limited membership to their subDAO because they needed people they could trust to make a good decision.
    • What is the root of this pain?
    • What does “a good decision fast” feel like?
    • What happens when decisions go wrong?
    • Where do these decisions go wrong?
    • What are examples of decisions
      • that they did trust to their group
      • that they weren’t willing to trust
     
    8k per project, for individual DAOs or SubDAOs
    • about the messy decisions
    • micro NFT sale for the research access
    • Mirror crowd fund, but a minimum
     
     
     
    Liquid Democracy
    Liquid democracy and sub-DAOs? what's the intersection of the two? Should the community have power over the sub-DAO, should sub-DAOs use leads? should sub-DAO leads be elected?
    I'm getting annoyed at all the committees popping up and don't understand why no one is working on liquid dem which is like more advanced delegation
    • Problem Statement: As a DAO member (voter), I want good oversight over the subDAOs that we are funding, but I can’t raise concerns about the effectiveness (or trustworthiness) of a given subDAO because I don’t have the context or expert knowledge, which makes me feel rugged.
     
    Multistakeholder Governance in DAOs
    What contexts have this problem?
     
    Corporate Governance to better serve customers and employees
     
    • autocratic, not good
    • Ask DAO Star One for a grant
      • Metagov is very academic. We couldn’t pull that rigor off, and it’s not that helpful
     
    Basic decision tools
    Light-weight tools to help sub-DAO leaders involve their teams or members in decisions in a safe way
     
    Separating Problem from Solution
    Can wider communities do a better job of prioritizing problems than voting on solutions? How do the DAO’s work where all token holders (or member wallets) vote on problems, then delegate teams to solve the important ones
    Cardano tool for giving grants, instead of committee:
    • Cardano Grant Project, problem sensing, proposals,
    • Cardano network fees
    RFP tool in DAOs
       
      Test existing community input tools
      • pol.is, loomio, kialo
       
      Test existing problem breakdown tools
      • that thing out of MIT we heard about at EthDenver - PSI
      • that other thing out of MIT (older, prof)
       
      Taxonomy of decisions
      Collect a big sample of decisions. Categorize them in various ways
      • Visible
        • Look at DAO forums and vote records
      • Invisible
        • Survey DAO leaders, contributors