Spice / Firefly / Prime Crypto / WAGMI AMA

Property
Date
Sep 12, 2022
date
Aug 31, 2022
Tags
investment
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Attendance
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Main Presenters
Paul Pesek - WAGMI Ventures
Yash Chopra / Roy Lu - Prime Crypto
Company Profile
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  • Dylan Vu
  • Niyant Narang
    • Got into crypto β€œlate” in 2019
  • Jakub
    • Got into crypto in 2015-16
    • monetary policy at Olympus DAO
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Value Prop
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  • Propy, ties ownership to NFTs
  • NFTs are well suited to lending because of their non-fungible nature
  • 3 cores in the stack
    • NFT Apprisal Tool (NFT Bank, Upshot) - gives an idea of what an NFT might sell for in a market - MVP ready
    • Credit Risk - MVP ready
    • Auto routing system (Should be done mid sep 2022)
    • Public launch by end of 2022
    • Next step - building a borrower aggregator
      • Then build a P2P matching algorithm
  • $1.3m pre-seed round - heavily oversubscribed
  • Legal team is the same as behind compound* & dydx*(think I caught the names correctly)
  • Multichain implementation planned for future roadmap
Q&A
  1. How the industry is responding to the bend DAO events and how the industry will adjust
    1. looking to Uniswap team at 7 lending protocols
    2. Liquidations will be reflected on the open market
      1. MEV risk
  1. Graham Smith: How you compare to other NFT aggregators and what differentiates you vs them?
    1. Spice offerings are different from most NFT aggregators. Close similars include Metastreet / Goblin Sachs?
    2. able to provide yields not available by other aggregators
    3. working towards a more efficient product using a flywheel effect
  1. CryptoDad: β€œhow Spice estimates the NFT price, specifically for PFP projects. Would it provide different pricing for NFT with different properties?”
    1. represent each NFT as a vector using time, price,
    2. yes they take properties into account
  1. Tesa: β€œhow much is spice taking off of the lending yield? what is stopping the user from seeing which lending protocol has the highest yield / lowest borrow rate and going directly to them?”
    1. not routing to best independent lending / borrowing rate, it’s routing to a portfolio
    2. Once P2P matching platform is built out, Spice’s rate offerings will be unparalled and will be the go-to platform for NFT lending/borrowing.
    3. The system is constantly rebalancing portfolio to monitor risk
      1. Spice removes liquidity from pools to provide active risk monitoring for users(sounds similar to DeFi saver’s functionality to monitor MakerDAO vaults)
  1. Roy: How does machine learning play into your long term strategy???
    1. Some assets are integrated with cash flows aquisitionaquisition
  1. Chris / NF: What plans do you have to tap into the upcoming Real Estate NFT market? What additional complexities are involved with dealing with real world assets?
    1. tapping into that includes forming relevant partnerships - keep an eye on the space and form relationships with companies bringing assets onchain
    2. biggest challenge is Legal implications - what licensing required? staying on top of legalities is a necessity. Spice has two strong legal minds who’ve worked at marquee web3 proejcts
    3. Spice expecting appraisal and calculation of loan with relation to income generating assets
    4. Spice will be going multichain - In touch with Layer 0, Cosmos
  1. CryptoDad: How would Spice attract users during the bear market? maybe from product features, go-to-market strategy?
    1. aligns with user acquisition strategy
    2. beta beginning next month
    3. Spice team drawing on personal networks to have representatives of their target user base(whitelisted users) to begin testing
    4. Plan to complete product by the time GTM is through
    5. Partnering with various defi protocols and their treasuries and their communities
8. What keeps the founders up at night?
  1. Existing Defi solutions are not exactly suitable for NFTfi
  1. Hoping the ecosystem would build out infra so they don’t have to end up building everything.
  1. The difficulty of the NFT finance space - there’s a level of innovation that exists to get a valuable product off the ground and solve real world problems
  1. Jakub feels like they are working on a turnkey product that will transform the space
  1. Niyant: wants to work together with other pools for aggregating to reduce risk management
  1. Dylan: NFTs are the financial primitive of the metaverse. We’re not here to build financial primitives for monkey pictures. The tools need to be flexible enough to capture other markets
ROI

Spice / Firefly / Prime Crypto / WAGMI AMA

Property
Date
Sep 12, 2022
date
Aug 31, 2022
Tags
investment
Last to edit
Attendance
notion image
Β 
Main Presenters
Paul Pesek - WAGMI Ventures
Yash Chopra / Roy Lu - Prime Crypto
Company Profile
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  • Dylan Vu
  • Niyant Narang
    • Got into crypto β€œlate” in 2019
  • Jakub
    • Got into crypto in 2015-16
    • monetary policy at Olympus DAO
Β 
Value Prop
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  • Propy, ties ownership to NFTs
  • NFTs are well suited to lending because of their non-fungible nature
  • 3 cores in the stack
    • NFT Apprisal Tool (NFT Bank, Upshot) - gives an idea of what an NFT might sell for in a market - MVP ready
    • Credit Risk - MVP ready
    • Auto routing system (Should be done mid sep 2022)
    • Public launch by end of 2022
    • Next step - building a borrower aggregator
      • Then build a P2P matching algorithm
  • $1.3m pre-seed round - heavily oversubscribed
  • Legal team is the same as behind compound* & dydx*(think I caught the names correctly)
  • Multichain implementation planned for future roadmap
Q&A
  1. How the industry is responding to the bend DAO events and how the industry will adjust
    1. looking to Uniswap team at 7 lending protocols
    2. Liquidations will be reflected on the open market
      1. MEV risk
  1. Graham Smith: How you compare to other NFT aggregators and what differentiates you vs them?
    1. Spice offerings are different from most NFT aggregators. Close similars include Metastreet / Goblin Sachs?
    2. able to provide yields not available by other aggregators
    3. working towards a more efficient product using a flywheel effect
  1. CryptoDad: β€œhow Spice estimates the NFT price, specifically for PFP projects. Would it provide different pricing for NFT with different properties?”
    1. represent each NFT as a vector using time, price,
    2. yes they take properties into account
  1. Tesa: β€œhow much is spice taking off of the lending yield? what is stopping the user from seeing which lending protocol has the highest yield / lowest borrow rate and going directly to them?”
    1. not routing to best independent lending / borrowing rate, it’s routing to a portfolio
    2. Once P2P matching platform is built out, Spice’s rate offerings will be unparalled and will be the go-to platform for NFT lending/borrowing.
    3. The system is constantly rebalancing portfolio to monitor risk
      1. Spice removes liquidity from pools to provide active risk monitoring for users(sounds similar to DeFi saver’s functionality to monitor MakerDAO vaults)
  1. Roy: How does machine learning play into your long term strategy???
    1. Some assets are integrated with cash flows aquisitionaquisition
  1. Chris / NF: What plans do you have to tap into the upcoming Real Estate NFT market? What additional complexities are involved with dealing with real world assets?
    1. tapping into that includes forming relevant partnerships - keep an eye on the space and form relationships with companies bringing assets onchain
    2. biggest challenge is Legal implications - what licensing required? staying on top of legalities is a necessity. Spice has two strong legal minds who’ve worked at marquee web3 proejcts
    3. Spice expecting appraisal and calculation of loan with relation to income generating assets
    4. Spice will be going multichain - In touch with Layer 0, Cosmos
  1. CryptoDad: How would Spice attract users during the bear market? maybe from product features, go-to-market strategy?
    1. aligns with user acquisition strategy
    2. beta beginning next month
    3. Spice team drawing on personal networks to have representatives of their target user base(whitelisted users) to begin testing
    4. Plan to complete product by the time GTM is through
    5. Partnering with various defi protocols and their treasuries and their communities
8. What keeps the founders up at night?
  1. Existing Defi solutions are not exactly suitable for NFTfi
  1. Hoping the ecosystem would build out infra so they don’t have to end up building everything.
  1. The difficulty of the NFT finance space - there’s a level of innovation that exists to get a valuable product off the ground and solve real world problems
  1. Jakub feels like they are working on a turnkey product that will transform the space
  1. Niyant: wants to work together with other pools for aggregating to reduce risk management
  1. Dylan: NFTs are the financial primitive of the metaverse. We’re not here to build financial primitives for monkey pictures. The tools need to be flexible enough to capture other markets
ROI