BB Outreach - CityDAO

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Nov 20, 2021
Last Edited Time
Feb 4, 2022
Can you tell me a little bit more about what you guys are trying to accomplish at CityDAO?
  • Started w/ Wyoming DAO law - it allows a DAO to own real estate (and other physical possessions)
    • Can we make a city based on blockchain?
    • Can we revamp existing cities o use blockchain?
  • The BIG thing is land ownership on chain (started w/ Parcel 0)
    • The next projects will be revenue generating real estate, things with actual utility (maybe where people live)
    • But it’ll all be about on-chain ownership of property
  • They operate - extremely messy. Grew from 500->10k sellout of NFTs
    • Grew exponentially fast over the last few weeks, it turned into chaos
 
For contributors - what is the barrier to get people started?
  • People are contributing, but they aren’t as aligned as they were when they were smaller
    • Everyone has their own ideas, their own vision
  • More ideas are being thrown out than actual work - they want to get everyone aligned and on the same page
  • A lot of the work being done in terms of deliverables have been core-team related
  • Currently newcomers are doing proposals, meetings, community
    • But people aren’t writing a lot of code, for instance
    • Getting people to commit actual code is hard
  • What is the hard part?
    • Someone will say they are interested - he points them to Github, they just fall off
    • From discussions he had with contributors, people hit blockers and maybe don’t reach out
    • There is just friction
    • Lack of compensation as a goal - that could be part of it…they don’t want to completely incentivize people with JUST compensation, but it could help
 
What are your biggest challenges at the moment?
  • Alignment
  • Crowd control
    • People would misunderstand, freak out, mob mentality would happen
    • This drains the core team - they keep having to repeat themselves
    • Always telling people to go to the community call - after that, people are on the same page
  • People are doing work that matters
    • 2 people working on the same things going in different directions
 
What are you hoping the bounty board can help you with?
  • Core team is putting in a LOT of work, and want help from contributors
  • Want to be able to compensate people for the work they do
  • Want to coordinate the work, so everyone is working in the same direction
  • Publicly display work being done
  • Alleviate friction points of onboarding - when you first join the server, immediately see a bounty that fits you, it’s short (no long-term commitment)
    • Once your have completed first task, the ball is rolling, helps you take on bigger tasks
    • Just knowing what to do FIRST - he always looks at open work when he joins a discord
  • Alignment that people see the stream of working coming through
    • Even when not on that team - you’re seeing the logs of people’s work
    • Q: Would you want to see an entire team’s work going through a bounty board?
      • Mainly he just attached bounties to GitHub issues. He will complete the bounties but not pay himself
      • All tasks have bounties attached. Sometimes it will be paid out, sometimes not
      • He would probably post all the bounties even if he completes himself
      • ACTION: links to look at the CityDAO GitHub
    • How would you reconcile tasks on GitHub vs bounty board?
      • He would reconcile this himself - it would be a manual process for now
      • He would like to use a more generalized task tracking system - maybe connect their central things (Notion) to GitHub
 
How are you expecting to use it?
  • Frontend vs through Discord bot?
  • Mainly expecting to use it through discord
    • They have had a demo w/ Icedcool and Bpetes and it looks great
    • They have to make sure it doesn’t get swallowed by Discord activity (probably will have dedicated channel)
  • Web frontend - will you use it?
    • He’s unsure if they would use it
    • For discord, it’s pretty chaotic, but EVERYONE is there
    • Discourse - they have one, but it’s not as active
 
Heard your bounties will all be geared towards gaining a Citizen NFT
  • How would this work?
  • TempCity token = this is an experiment
    • Non-transferrable, but you can only trade for a Citizen NFT
    • $1 for each TempCity, so it depends on the price of ETH (Citizen is 0.25ETH)
  • Are bounties useless for people with Citizen NFTs?
    • At the moment it’s 1 NFT = 1 vote
    • Citizen NFTs are also pretty liquid, so they could sell them
 
How do you expect to populate bounties?
  • Scott (admin/legal) does them as he thinks they are needed
    • i.e. intro the team to lawyers, random stuff like that
    • Bounties to find desirable land
  • Since they were using Citizen NFT, they were doing BIG tasks
    • But with the token, they can do it for smaller tasks
    • Dev and design will likely have smaller tasks to push through
 
Why would you use 0 value bounties?
  • Chance asked for this
  • Keeping all tasks in one place whether or not they have a bounty
    • i.e. a task tracking system
    • Even the statuses we have no will prevent things from getting lost in the void
 
How would you use it as an onboarding tool?
  • They don’t have an onboarding tool right now, they are working on it slowly (meets and website)
  • (Some stuff above, first task and such)
  • He would use it for devs, currently he’s post something specifically for new devs that hits their skills
    • With bounty board he could just send them there
    • FEATURE REQUEST: filter bounties by “TYPE” i.e. frontend, backend, node
      • Essentially filter by tag
  • If they did had an onboarding process, they could fit it in
    • Once you do your first task you get a Discord role
    • FEATURE REQUEST: bounties gated by Discord role
      • i.e. tiers of bounties that get unlocked as you gain more trust in CityDAO
 
Is trust an issue for you?
  • i.e. certain bounties only available to certain people?
  • It’s all word-of-mouth right now, but they would definitely like to have something a bit more documented
  • It could look similar to Bankless Internal Guild Tags - i.e. pass editor test, get EPA tag
    • So if you are a dev, you can get credentials to show you are a good dev
    • Example: they had a real-estate lawyer contributor come in and at some point their core team realized this person was good, so it would have been a good chance to do a role
    • But it could get crazy pretty fast - so they don’t know quite what to do here
    • Links explains L1 (stake) vs L2 (social) roles in Bankless
 
How are you planning on paying bounties on completion? (i.e. tips? Monthly?)
  • TempCity is through tip.cc - they will pay out through there
    • Core team members will pay out through there
 
Will only core team members be creating bounties?
  • They will at least have to approve them, they don’t have trust for general citizens yet
  • But they have some non-core people who would probably need to create bounties
    • But core team will have to pay out
    • he messages Scott and Scott makes it happen
  • They pay out as it happens - it’s all tips

BB Outreach - CityDAO

Last edited by
Date
Nov 20, 2021
Last Edited Time
Feb 4, 2022
Can you tell me a little bit more about what you guys are trying to accomplish at CityDAO?
  • Started w/ Wyoming DAO law - it allows a DAO to own real estate (and other physical possessions)
    • Can we make a city based on blockchain?
    • Can we revamp existing cities o use blockchain?
  • The BIG thing is land ownership on chain (started w/ Parcel 0)
    • The next projects will be revenue generating real estate, things with actual utility (maybe where people live)
    • But it’ll all be about on-chain ownership of property
  • They operate - extremely messy. Grew from 500->10k sellout of NFTs
    • Grew exponentially fast over the last few weeks, it turned into chaos
 
For contributors - what is the barrier to get people started?
  • People are contributing, but they aren’t as aligned as they were when they were smaller
    • Everyone has their own ideas, their own vision
  • More ideas are being thrown out than actual work - they want to get everyone aligned and on the same page
  • A lot of the work being done in terms of deliverables have been core-team related
  • Currently newcomers are doing proposals, meetings, community
    • But people aren’t writing a lot of code, for instance
    • Getting people to commit actual code is hard
  • What is the hard part?
    • Someone will say they are interested - he points them to Github, they just fall off
    • From discussions he had with contributors, people hit blockers and maybe don’t reach out
    • There is just friction
    • Lack of compensation as a goal - that could be part of it…they don’t want to completely incentivize people with JUST compensation, but it could help
 
What are your biggest challenges at the moment?
  • Alignment
  • Crowd control
    • People would misunderstand, freak out, mob mentality would happen
    • This drains the core team - they keep having to repeat themselves
    • Always telling people to go to the community call - after that, people are on the same page
  • People are doing work that matters
    • 2 people working on the same things going in different directions
 
What are you hoping the bounty board can help you with?
  • Core team is putting in a LOT of work, and want help from contributors
  • Want to be able to compensate people for the work they do
  • Want to coordinate the work, so everyone is working in the same direction
  • Publicly display work being done
  • Alleviate friction points of onboarding - when you first join the server, immediately see a bounty that fits you, it’s short (no long-term commitment)
    • Once your have completed first task, the ball is rolling, helps you take on bigger tasks
    • Just knowing what to do FIRST - he always looks at open work when he joins a discord
  • Alignment that people see the stream of working coming through
    • Even when not on that team - you’re seeing the logs of people’s work
    • Q: Would you want to see an entire team’s work going through a bounty board?
      • Mainly he just attached bounties to GitHub issues. He will complete the bounties but not pay himself
      • All tasks have bounties attached. Sometimes it will be paid out, sometimes not
      • He would probably post all the bounties even if he completes himself
      • ACTION: links to look at the CityDAO GitHub
    • How would you reconcile tasks on GitHub vs bounty board?
      • He would reconcile this himself - it would be a manual process for now
      • He would like to use a more generalized task tracking system - maybe connect their central things (Notion) to GitHub
 
How are you expecting to use it?
  • Frontend vs through Discord bot?
  • Mainly expecting to use it through discord
    • They have had a demo w/ Icedcool and Bpetes and it looks great
    • They have to make sure it doesn’t get swallowed by Discord activity (probably will have dedicated channel)
  • Web frontend - will you use it?
    • He’s unsure if they would use it
    • For discord, it’s pretty chaotic, but EVERYONE is there
    • Discourse - they have one, but it’s not as active
 
Heard your bounties will all be geared towards gaining a Citizen NFT
  • How would this work?
  • TempCity token = this is an experiment
    • Non-transferrable, but you can only trade for a Citizen NFT
    • $1 for each TempCity, so it depends on the price of ETH (Citizen is 0.25ETH)
  • Are bounties useless for people with Citizen NFTs?
    • At the moment it’s 1 NFT = 1 vote
    • Citizen NFTs are also pretty liquid, so they could sell them
 
How do you expect to populate bounties?
  • Scott (admin/legal) does them as he thinks they are needed
    • i.e. intro the team to lawyers, random stuff like that
    • Bounties to find desirable land
  • Since they were using Citizen NFT, they were doing BIG tasks
    • But with the token, they can do it for smaller tasks
    • Dev and design will likely have smaller tasks to push through
 
Why would you use 0 value bounties?
  • Chance asked for this
  • Keeping all tasks in one place whether or not they have a bounty
    • i.e. a task tracking system
    • Even the statuses we have no will prevent things from getting lost in the void
 
How would you use it as an onboarding tool?
  • They don’t have an onboarding tool right now, they are working on it slowly (meets and website)
  • (Some stuff above, first task and such)
  • He would use it for devs, currently he’s post something specifically for new devs that hits their skills
    • With bounty board he could just send them there
    • FEATURE REQUEST: filter bounties by “TYPE” i.e. frontend, backend, node
      • Essentially filter by tag
  • If they did had an onboarding process, they could fit it in
    • Once you do your first task you get a Discord role
    • FEATURE REQUEST: bounties gated by Discord role
      • i.e. tiers of bounties that get unlocked as you gain more trust in CityDAO
 
Is trust an issue for you?
  • i.e. certain bounties only available to certain people?
  • It’s all word-of-mouth right now, but they would definitely like to have something a bit more documented
  • It could look similar to Bankless Internal Guild Tags - i.e. pass editor test, get EPA tag
    • So if you are a dev, you can get credentials to show you are a good dev
    • Example: they had a real-estate lawyer contributor come in and at some point their core team realized this person was good, so it would have been a good chance to do a role
    • But it could get crazy pretty fast - so they don’t know quite what to do here
    • Links explains L1 (stake) vs L2 (social) roles in Bankless
 
How are you planning on paying bounties on completion? (i.e. tips? Monthly?)
  • TempCity is through tip.cc - they will pay out through there
    • Core team members will pay out through there
 
Will only core team members be creating bounties?
  • They will at least have to approve them, they don’t have trust for general citizens yet
  • But they have some non-core people who would probably need to create bounties
    • But core team will have to pay out
    • he messages Scott and Scott makes it happen
  • They pay out as it happens - it’s all tips